Opened 19 years ago

Closed 15 years ago

#2203 closed defect (fixed)

TIME_FORMAT, DATE_FORMAT and DATETIME_FORMAT are ignored

Reported by: marcink@… Owned by: Marc Garcia
Component: Internationalization Version: dev
Severity: normal Keywords: i18n-fixed
Cc: Gonzalo Saavedra Triage Stage: Fixed on a branch
Has patch: no Needs documentation: no
Needs tests: no Patch needs improvement: no
Easy pickings: no UI/UX: no

Description

Contrary to the docs at http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/settings/,
changing TIME_FORMAT, DATE_FORMAT and DATETIME_FORMAT does not influence admin pages in any way.

These were added in [1115] but apparently got lost during magic-removal.

Attachments (1)

settings.py (2.7 KB ) - added by bahamut@… 18 years ago.
Settings file for my application. Date and time formats are not respected in admin site.

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Change History (26)

comment:1 by Ramiro Morales, 19 years ago

Hi,

What SVN revision are you using?. What behavior are you observing?.

Does the translated catalog you are using (pl.po?) specify these technical IDs
(TIME_FORMAT, DATE_FORMAT and DATETIME_FORMAT)?

This should be working, the code that appears in contrib/admin/views/main.py in the [1115] patchset
now lives in contrib/admin/templatetags/admin_list.py and calls the utils/translation.py:get_date_formats()
function. That function uses the fomat strings specified in your xx.po if any and fallback to the values specified in global-settings.py/your settings.py.

Seee also [3055]

comment:2 by Adrian Holovaty, 18 years ago

Resolution: worksforme
Status: newclosed

Looks like it's a problem with your translation catalog.

comment:3 by bahamut@…, 18 years ago

Resolution: worksforme
Status: closedreopened
Version: SVN

This is broken as of r3327 trunk, for the English locale. Indeed, it seems to export or define time and date formats, which completely overwrites any project settings. This means there's no way to switch to 24 hours time, etc.

comment:4 by Adrian Holovaty, 18 years ago

bahamut: Would you perhaps be importing django.utils.translation in your settings file? See #2309 for discussion.

comment:5 by bahamut@…, 18 years ago

I am not. I'm attaching my settings file.

by bahamut@…, 18 years ago

Attachment: settings.py added

Settings file for my application. Date and time formats are not respected in admin site.

comment:6 by bahamut@…, 18 years ago

I'm not sure how it can work intuitively -- that is, the date and time format settings applying to the admin site and other translated areas properly.

For example, taking the code from the admin site.

source:trunk/django/contrib/admin/templatetags/admin_list.py line 138

elif isinstance(f, models.DateField) or isinstance(f, models.TimeField):
                if field_val:
                    (date_format, datetime_format, time_format) = get_date_formats()
                    if isinstance(f, models.DateTimeField):
                        result_repr = capfirst(dateformat.format(field_val, datetime_format))
                    elif isinstance(f, models.TimeField):
                        result_repr = capfirst(dateformat.time_format(field_val, time_format))
                    else:
                        result_repr = capfirst(dateformat.format(field_val, date_format))

If we look at get_date_formats:

source:trunk/django/utils/translation/trans_real.py line 355

def get_date_formats():
    """
    This function checks whether translation files provide a translation for some
    technical message ID to store date and time formats. If it doesn't contain
    one, the formats provided in the settings will be used.
    """
    from django.conf import settings
    date_format = _('DATE_FORMAT')
    datetime_format = _('DATETIME_FORMAT')
    time_format = _('TIME_FORMAT')
    if date_format == 'DATE_FORMAT':
        date_format = settings.DATE_FORMAT
    if datetime_format == 'DATETIME_FORMAT':
        datetime_format = settings.DATETIME_FORMAT
    if time_format == 'TIME_FORMAT':
        time_format = settings.TIME_FORMAT
    return date_format, datetime_format, time_format

It would seem we'll always get the format from the translation files, not from the settings.

comment:7 by bahamut@…, 18 years ago

Might have wanted to preview that entry first :|

Correct source links are

  • source:django/trunk/django/contrib/admin/templatetags/admin_list.py line 138
  • source:django/trunk/django/utils/translation/trans_real.py line 355

comment:8 by bahamut@…, 18 years ago

I should also mention that, as of r3327, setting USE_I18N to False in your settings file will happily blow up the admin site, with the following exception being generated:

Exception Type: AttributeError
Exception Value: 'module' object has no attribute 'get_language_bidi'
Exception Location: /opt/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/context_processors.py in i18n, line 41

This might be worth posting as a new ticket. However, this is a separate issue and I believe date and time formats should be configurable outside the scope or control of the localization files. There are arguably legitimate reasons for this (e.g. an application for the US military might require to use the 24 hours time format, while the locale would stil be en-us).

comment:9 by anonymous, 18 years ago

*sigh* I really need to start using the preview button...

Un-wikified exception details:

Exception Type:        AttributeError
Exception Value:       'module' object has no attribute 'get_language_bidi'
Exception Location:    /opt/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django/core/context_processors.py in i18n, line 41

comment:10 by Adrian Holovaty, 18 years ago

(In [3329]) Added get_language_bidi to django.utils.translation.trans_nuill. Refs #2203

comment:11 by Chris Beaven, 18 years ago

Triage Stage: UnreviewedAccepted

Looks valid to me.

Bahamut mentioned "It would seem we'll always get the format from the translation files, not from the settings." so could someone write up a patch to fix this?

comment:12 by Malcolm Tredinnick, 18 years ago

Triage Stage: AcceptedDesign decision needed

On one level, we *should* be getting the format from the translation files, in almost all cases. This is because the developer/designer of the original presentation is not going to be up to speed on all the subtleties and traditions of time presentation in all the locales, whereas the translator will know how times are normally presented in their particular language (and the translator and designer should be working together on the tricky cases).

So there is a design problem here: allowing control of time presentation information via the settings file does not interact well with localisation. I'm not sure what a solution is to this one yet, since I only just noticed this ticket. But it's not a clear bug, to my mind, at the moment. Needs some more thought.

The example of wanting to force time to always be in military time, for example, is a case where the timezone presentation in each case should be translated to use the 24-hour presentation. However, that is a separate issue in any case (since it enters the realm of project-wide translation files overriding core translations, which is something we cannot handle at the moment). So let's not have any more discussion of that in this ticket, please.

comment:13 by Marc Garcia, 17 years ago

Keywords: i18n-rf added

comment:14 by Marc Garcia, 16 years ago

Component: Admin interfaceInternationalization
milestone: post-1.0

comment:15 by lakin@…, 16 years ago

In my mind this is a bug. My reasoning is as follows: In every language there are many different (but correct) ways in which to display a date. Although one way may be considered a default, surely there are many ways that are valid. In order to change the default date display on one app, I have to provide a custom translation?

comment:17 by (none), 16 years ago

milestone: post-1.0

Milestone post-1.0 deleted

comment:18 by sergey.g.aleshin@…, 15 years ago

milestone: 1.0.3

This bug is still in 1.0x.
How i can change date and time format for admin site but keep I18N settings?

comment:19 by Karen Tracey, 15 years ago

milestone: 1.0.3

The triage state for this ticket is "Design decision needed". Something that needs design work is not a candidate for 1.0.3. You might consider asking your question on the django-users list; I do not know if there is any good answer but the audience there is far larger than here so you'd have a better chance of getting a useful answer.

comment:20 by Gonzalo Saavedra, 15 years ago

Cc: Gonzalo Saavedra added

comment:21 by Marc Garcia, 15 years ago

Keywords: i18n-fixed added; i18n-rf removed
Owner: changed from nobody to Marc Garcia
Status: reopenednew

Fixed in branches/soc2009/i18n-improvements.

comment:22 by Marc Garcia, 15 years ago

Triage Stage: Design decision neededFixed on a branch

comment:23 by sorin, 15 years ago

The irony is that even this Trac is not well configured - the dates are listed using US locale instead of something more word-ready like ISO 8601.

Also I strongly recommend to change the *defaults* to use ISO 8601.

When should we see this in trunk?

comment:24 by tangc, 15 years ago

If change the following code

    if date_format == 'DATE_FORMAT':
        date_format = settings.DATE_FORMAT
    if datetime_format == 'DATETIME_FORMAT':
        datetime_format = settings.DATETIME_FORMAT
    if time_format == 'TIME_FORMAT':
        time_format = settings.TIME_FORMAT

into

    if settings.DATE_FORMAT:
        date_format = settings.DATE_FORMAT
    if settings.DATETIME_FORMAT:
        datetime_format = settings.DATETIME_FORMAT
    if settings.TIME_FORMAT:
        time_format = settings.TIME_FORMAT

then it will use the format from setting.

comment:25 by Jannis Leidel, 15 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

(In [11964]) Fixed #7980 - Improved i18n framework to support locale aware formatting (dates and numbers) and form processing.

Thanks to Marc Garcia for working on this during his Google Summer of Code 2009!

Additionally fixes #1061, #2203, #3940, #5526, #6449, #6231, #6693, #6783, #9366 and #10891.

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