Opened 15 years ago

Closed 15 years ago

#11729 closed (wontfix)

session key should extract more entropy from time.time()

Reported by: Ryan Kelly Owned by: nobody
Component: contrib.sessions Version: dev
Severity: Keywords:
Cc: Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: yes Needs documentation: no
Needs tests: no Patch needs improvement: no
Easy pickings: no UI/UX: no

Description

The code to construct a new session key calls time.time() to get some additional entropy, but uses the "%s" format to mix it in. The default precision for "%s" formatting is 2 decimal places, which throws away the bits with the highest entropy:


>>> for _ in xrange(5):
...     print "%s" % (time.time(),)
... 
1250468751.64
1250468751.64
1250468751.64
1250468751.64
1250468751.64

Attached is a simple patch to make it use "%.20f" instead, which is much more convincingly "random":

>>> for _ in xrange(5):
...     print "%.20f" % (time.time(),)
... 
1250468874.97280406951904296875
1250468874.97284793853759765625
1250468874.97286295890808105469
1250468874.97287893295288085938
1250468874.97289204597473144531

Cheers,

Ryan

Attachments (1)

session_key_entropy.patch (645 bytes ) - added by Ryan Kelly 15 years ago.

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Change History (5)

by Ryan Kelly, 15 years ago

Attachment: session_key_entropy.patch added

comment:1 by James Bennett, 15 years ago

While I may be wrong, ISTR something coming up once upon a time about Windows not providing enough precision to make this sort of thing reliably portable.

comment:2 by Ryan Kelly, 15 years ago

Indeed, I get this on my WinXP box:

>>> for _ in xrange(5):
...     print "%.20f" % (time.time(),)
... 
1250475647.96400000000000000000
1250475647.96500000000000000000
1250475647.96500000000000000000
1250475647.96500000000000000000
1250475647.96500000000000000000

That's still ~3 more bits of entropy than using "%s" ;-)

comment:3 by Alex Gaynor, 15 years ago

It doesn't, window's timer provides up to 15ms of percision. That won't actually reduce entropy in any way (AFAIK) though.

comment:4 by Russell Keith-Magee, 15 years ago

Resolution: wontfix
Status: newclosed

Given the cross platform difficulties, and the absence of any explanation for why the current level of entropy isn't sufficient, I'm marking this wontfix.

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